Happy Thursday!
Okay. I admit it. The Scrabble board clues were a bit of wild goose chase. But still, I am awed by your commitment to this cause.
Today I thought I’d make things a bit more straightforward. This poll may lead you in the right direction.
Yippee!!! 1st impression, could be anywhere on the globe. Guess I'll go back for a second impression…Oh, and Good Morning!:D
I think it in Tennessee
OK, so west of NJ has the vast lead….that would eliminate New England…
Vote is changing now, so field opens again. (Thanks to those of you who warned me I might get caught up in overthinking.) o.0
3 of 4 would narrow original poll options to Tennessee, Georgia, or Virginia. 4th obviously leaves Hawaii in the mix.
Hmmm, I guess that narrows things down a little….
Now I'm really scratching my head in perplexity! The only thing I can say for sure is that, if we stay in the US, then only one of the options would eliminate Hawaii, and so far that one is getting the least votes. Otherwise, Mary, this is another wild goose chase — you are sending us all over the world now! I just hope that the wild goose you are sending us after is the nene or Hawaiian goose, the official state bird of Hawaii!
Sounds reasonable to me CplusE.
Good catch on the Goose, I sure hope we can chase it all the way to Hawaii.
Good morning! I'm not seeing a poll or is Mary talking about the one on the front page?
me neither
She's referring to her west of California, east of New Jersey, south of the Mason Dixon, and east of the Mississippi vote poll Irishsprite.
thanks Lessie!!
The poll software they're using doesn't work on all web browsers. It comes up
with Internet Explorer. The poll doesn't show up with firefox 3.6, but does show up
with Firefox 4.1, which is the opposite of their bboards software which doesn't run
right under 4.1 Firefox.
You can also see the poll with Google Chrome. Make sure your web browser is up to date.
My browser is as up to date as my 11 year old mac allows! LOL!!
Hmmm…then maybe you should consider buying a PC or a new Mac…LOL!!!
Namuha, if I could afford it I'd buy a new Mac in a heartbeat but, I'm a disabled single mom so that isn't going to be happening in this lifetime. I can't even afford a PC…LOL!
I understand completely. Although Mac's tend to be more expensive then PC's generally speaking. You could do like I have and put away $10 a month for that new thing you really want. More when special days come along that bring you a little more cash…LOL! B-day, Mother's Day, Anniversary, Christmas…the list goes on…Girls weekend…lol! Drop hints to your family when you are out shopping. That is what I did with my husband for Moms Day. I kept saying.."Boy honey it would be nice to have earings I could wear with my motorcycle helmet. You know..ones that are flat." He got me what I was wanting too. I was subtle yet direct.
The way the poll looks right now everything points to Georgia all three poll questions point to Georgia except one West of California is to confuse us so we can keep guessing. I could be wrong but I doubt.
It also points to VA & TN as they are also below the Mason-DIxon line.
Mary's speciality is keeping us on our toes, misleading us with our own words, and sharpening our thinking skills. Except for the one person who nailed it on the head, I guess she's doing an excellent job.
Would someone please post the poll questions because I don't see any? Thanks!!
We are to vote on the following regarding where we believe the dream home 2012 will be located:
West of New Jersey
West of California
East of the Mississippi
South of the Mason-Dixon
West of California, West of New Jersey, South of the Mason Dixon, and East of the Mississippi.
"West of New Jersey" would include everything but New England. Even some of the areas of NY that the clues could point to would be included in that answer.
I've got errands to run. Maybe by the time I get back one of you kind bloggers will have posted the poll questions for me so I can play this round. See you later!!
irishsprite…the choices on the poll are…
West of New Jersey
West of California
East of the Mississippi
South of the Mason-Dixon
Thanks boomer…appreciate the posting!
"West of California" is the only choice that would lead to a "straightforward" answer.
but would that leave Alaska, Hawaii, Guam… and maybe parts of Oregon/Washington?
Hawaii is the only state she has had on the polls though. But you are correct; Mary has never epitomized “straightforward” behavior in the past.
I do believe it is Virginia. The state has the different settings shown in the very first pictures. Beautiful!!!
HAWAII !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAWAII !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAWAII !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAWAII !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok, here it goes:
West of New Jersey = HAWAII
West of California = HAWAII
East of the Mississippi = Across the globe to HAWAII
South of the Mason – Dixon = HAWAII
Clear as mud !!! LOL, You haven't changed Lucy's mind yet Mary B)
You get milk bones and greenies for this one you smart puppy!!!!
Isn't straigtforward a nautical term? West of California!! "Proceeding in a straight course"
You and Lucy are working this one big time LOL!!B)
West of New Jersey = Every state with the exception of the New England states is west of NJ
West of California = Hawaii & Alaska
East of the Mississippi = Anything east of the Mississippi including New England, Mid-Atlantic and southern reaches of the USA
South of the Mason – Dixon = Anything south of PA in the continental US at the time of the Revolutionary period when the original survey was conducted from 1763-1767. This takes it down further as there were only 13 original colonies at the time of the survey including those south of that border which are Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia.
Soooo, using Mary's "straight forward" concept of pointing us in the "right direction" we are down to PA, HI, TN, GA, or VA. Brilliant. It is so much clearer now…
o.0
At least one of the choices wasn't East of Eden, which would have put us squarely in John Steinbeck's Salinas, CA.
I want it south of the M/D, east of WV, north of the Carolinas, and west of the Atlantic!!
Tying this to the first vote…W of NJ – IA, W of CA -HI, E of Missippi – TN or VA, S of Mason-Dixon – GA. I think Mary is solidying the 5 states on which we should focus. I'm still not sure which of those 5 it is but I'm staying with these 5 possibilities. My preference at this stage is E of the river or south of the line!
That keeps TN & VA in the running then, because they too are south of the Mason Dixon…
She mentioned TN and VA.
I just saw the video of the very attractive couple visit their new home in Stowe. It was sweet to watch. I'm so happy for them!
I've said it before, and I'll say it again — Oh what a tangled web MARY weaves when first she practices to mislead!
I still say Georgia
Dearest Mary,
What we have here is what we in the political arena call (and I mean this is the kindest of ways, of course) a delay tactic. North, east, south, or west no matter how you slice it we are still pondering over the same geography.
Now there can only be a couple of reasons for such a deliberately coy strategy. Option #1-the bloggers here are so incredibly bright that we have exceeded your expectations (Note to self-not sure I'd go with that one), or, #2-the clues to the location are so unique it makes it impossible for you to drop a crumb without dropping the curtain on the location.
So dear Mary which is it?
Well, Debra G, it's definitely Option #1. We've careened out of control down a slippery slope, and MARY has retaken the wheel, applied the brakes, raised the yellow flag, and cautioned us that any further nonsense on our part will result in turning this whole thing around and going back to square one!
Hey, no problem. After all, we're just along for the ride! Might as well sit back, hold on and enjoy the scenery….
Although I think Cami and a few others would wish it were #2, coconuts and leis LOL!!!
Or option #3 – Option #1 AND Option #2
xD
I see both options one and two, working for Hawaii;)
Haha! But of course you do!!
This clue is called circular logic, the road to nowhere, obfuscation, pin the tail, Rubik's cube, catch 22, sailing without a rudder, a riddle within a riddle, a veritable minefield of muddle, or, plainly speaking, a wild goose chase — blindfolded!
By the way, I'm going with West of New Jersey. That narrows it down significantly. From there, I'll get out my trusty dartboard and see where it takes me.
OMGOSH, you didn't tell me you were a lobbyist, too!!
LOL
(I have a tendency to oversimplify the world and put people into two groups…you most definitely fall into the favorable group…fun to have at a dinner party.)
Well, you're coming, too, aren't you?!? B)
Would not miss it!
I just say come out with it Mary, and give us the whole truth and notin but the truth.
Mary, seems like you've covered the US mainland well, but Hawaii could still be in the running according to your west of New Jersey clue. Your next clue should be a dart board of the US with the dart within a hundred mile radius of the 2012 location.
I'm confused, but what else is new! How does taking a poll lead us in the right direction? Asking us to take a poll is asking us for opinions, or answers. It asks us for our answers, without providing an answer for us. Mary did not state that any of the poll choices are indeed a clue.
Mary, please define your definition of straightforward. To me this "clue" is as straight as a dog's back-leg!
Anyway my guess is the Savannah Georgia area, because I think it would be a perfect location, and I'd love to see how Paula Deen would be involved in it's kitchen.
AES, in case i haven't told you lately-I LOVE you LOL!!!:*
Hi there AnneEliseSouth. I wondered about this poll vault myself. Mary usually has the real gold bullion hidden in a safe somewhere, and is probably saving her straight foward juicy clue for this weekend.
Bobby Flay prepared a wonderful meal for DH team in Sonoma. Paula would seem the obvious choice for DH in Savannah although I'm stumped on location so far. I'm sort of leaning toward Virginia based on clues.
For those not able to view the poll, we are to vote on the following regarding where we believe the dream home 2012 will be located:
West of New Jersey
West of California
East of the Mississippi
South of the Mason-Dixon
thanks areeve04!
Georgia.
The largest producer of peanuts in the U.S. is Georgia, Google has office in Atlanta, Providence Canyon = Georgia's Little Grand Canyon, the state is a major producer of marble, etc. A lot of the other words, such as moose, are associated with previous dreamhome sites, or could be associated with border states (i.e. North Carolina is the major mining operation for natural quartz in the country). Also, the first post's reference to "Federal architecture," could be a clue, as it was the successor to Georgian architecture, which was more common in the colonies prior to the late 1700s. I could be completely off on that one though.
On the other hand, looking at the poll and the locations of past dream homes:
- West of New Jersey: DONE, California and New Mexico
- West of California: Only state that could be is Hawaii or Alaska, and those haven't been done yet
- East of the Mississippi: DONE, Vermont and Florida
- South of the Mason-Dixon: DONE, Florida and New Mexico
Did MM mean California the STATE, The VILLAGE in Ohio or the CITY in MARYland?
interesting!!!!!!
Three of these clues point toward Tennessee and/or Georgia.
So either the poll is a good clue or it's a red herring and the Dream Home is in Hawaii.
Clue Number Three clinches the title of Master of the Art of Mischievous Deception on MARY's part.
I think I'm going to go play a game of Scrabble now. But don't let me keep you from digging deeper to unravel the mystery of MARY's maze. There may be something to Clue Number Three after all…. ^_^
At this point I'd even settle for a numbers clue — and I hate numbers clues!o.0
I said that a couple of days ago!
If anyone comes up with an epiphany as to how this narrows things down please share.;)
Cami…I think the only one that narrows the location down, is straightforward, is "west of California." It is the only option that has only one answer. I am thinking maybe it will be Hawaii.
The State of California. the Village of California in Ohio or the City of California, in St. Mary County, MARYland?
I just got home, and had to read what you were saying a few times before I got it. That's exactly it boomer!! Way to go! It is the only option for West of California.
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Can you tell, I'm extra happy, and doin' the hula. Aloha Hawaii.
Cami, I'm having another Blue Hawaiian. Did you read Lucy's revelation about the US possessions, commonwealths, and territories as possibilities? Please tell me someone slipped something into my Blue Hawaiian because I'm beginning to think I'm FLIPing out! :S
What did Lucyourdog reveal about Blue Hawaiian? I missed something here. Need information…:S
I have to tell you if it is Hawaii, and I win it, you will get the home for at least 30 days a year, but (whispering now so Debra G doesn't hear) I hope I win the blog cabin and can figure out a way to increase your chances to win the DH.
I HEARD THAT!!!! ^_^
As long as nobody messes with my Green Home!
Hey, that one is TOTALLY yours!!!
I can tell now you are going to be tough competition for the Blog Cabin! I will send you a Smith Island Cake if I win.
Haha!! I will do the same:) What is your favorite flavor??
Red velvet with the real, cooked icing or carrot cake with cream cheese frosting. But seriously…isn't the Blog Cabin incredible? I will keep my finger crossed for both of us on this one. It would be so awesome if one of us won it.
No, there are also the Galapagos Islands ( part of Chile ), but they have lovely beaches with friendly and "tame" wildlife. Don't worry, Cami–I hear that iguanas "taste just like chicken", LOL………
A cross between turkey and chicken…they are sort of gamy in flavor.
I'm with you, Cami! Mary has given us three clues so far and I still feel clueless!
Oh Alaska would be so amazing!! Then I wouldn't feel so bad for the puppy I want to get for my son.
Siby huskies love the snow, the only down side would be the month long of night.
As an Alaskan resident from the second largest city of Fairbanks I had to comment on this misconception. There is a month long of night but that's pretty much at the northernmost point of Alaska like Barrow. The rest of the state has decent winters, except for here in the interior where we have the driest and coldest extremes.
I can't imagine that HGTV would want to build here in the Interior. As much as I love it here the ideal Alaskan location would be in the south-central region of the state near Anchorage or down on the Kenai Penninsula. Outdoor activities varies greatly and are available year round.
Thank you, I really didn't know that.
Which makes we wonder why do I live in southern FL ? lol
I love the cold so much I wish I lived in a all year long cold zone, me and the heat don't get along very well
I don't see how this clue is going to help. It is just an opinion poll, and I don't see what I can learn from it.
On the other hand, I am glad that we have moved on from the 2nd clue. It was getting a bit tiresome.
I still believe the location to be Montana, that is where the clues led me. I think it would be a great place to live, and there is plenty to do in the great outdoors. Not only that, but the beauty of the mountains and nature…..breathtaking.
I agree this clue seems a bit pointless, all we can do is keep clicking the one we want it to be and watch the numbers rise
Going back to the Elvis clue…..peanutbutter and bananas. There is a missing ingredient. The Elvis Sandwich also includes bacon. Could this be a hint that the home will NOT be located on a farm? A farm has pigs. There cannot be any pigs, because there is no bacon.
I thought you moved on? You were right in your posting above about how worn out clue two is!
Since the directions could lead us to many locations, I'm going with the one new term,
Mason- Dixon Line. The Mason-Dixon Line was originally a division to settle a boundary
dispute between the proprietors, William Penn and Lord Baltimore. Charles Mason and
Jeremiah Dixon were English astronomers and surveyors who came to Philadelphia to
finally lay this boundary dispute to rest. And that's all I know.
So should we go get the surveying tools, weather vanes, compasses, and astronomical tools??
Or is Mary leading us off the trail? Back to Bucks County, PA!
There are 11 states South of the Mason-Dixon Line; 12 if you count Texas (some do; some don't)
Virginia
West Virginia
Kentucky
Tennessee
North Carolina
South Carolina
Mississippi
Alabama
Georgia
Louisiana
Arkansas
Texas
Irishsprite, the original Mason-Dixon markers are in Pennsylvania. The state lines came
later. So Pennyslvania may still be in. Mary can be a little tricky in these matters.
But the only part of PA that would still be in is the part south of the M-D line – no? And yes, that Mary can be very tricky.
I don't know, Irishsprite. That's the fun of this game!
Is the line near California PA? Yes there is city in PA named California.
You learn something new everyday! Thank you, Nebraska!
It's VIRGINIA!!! All 4 clues point to Virginia – including West of California!!! California, Maryland is EAST of Fairfax Co, VIRGINIA. HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VIRGINIA is:
1. West of New Jersey
2. West of California (California, MD)
3. East of the Mississippi
4. South of the Mason-Dixon
You are a genius!! OMGOSH, a certified genius!! GOOO VIRGINIA!!
I'm still thinking Hawaii…
I'm beginning to think VA. South of Mason-Dixon ( "sraightforward") lies VA. GA and TN could be the locations to which Mary refers as east of Mississippi River.
Did you ever listen to Mark Knoppler and James Taylor sing about Mason and Dixon? It's a pretty song titled Sailing to Philadelphia.
So using a process of elimination Iowa seems to be the only choice that meets the criteria to have only one answer to this vote (Hawaii is west of both New Jersey and California). Iowa, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
I have a new theory…….I thought the location was Montana, because it is the Big Sky Country. The clues WISH….refers to to a wish upon a star. And, the tide refers to the gravatational forces of the moon and the sun on the earths oceans, water…..high tide or low tide. Key words: star, moon, earth, sun. All of these are in the sky. But I think it is possible that the location is not in Montana.
Also, the words canyon and quarry….both holes in the ground. One is manmade and the other is made by nature. Could it be that these clues refer not to a hole in the ground….but the exact opposite, a Mountain. A mountain is nature, and a skyscraper is similar to a mountain…..it is tall and majestic, but manmade. So the location would be in a city with skyscrapers, with views of the nearby mountains. Sally goes to the mountains.
Vise……..a vise has jaws. Jaws, a popular movie from years ago about a killer shark. This fits, because fin and excruciate refer to shark attacks. The Florida coast has the most shark attacks in the US. But since this is a bad thing, I tend to think that the location will not be someplace where shark attacks are common.
I think the location is in the north, where it is cold in the winter and a winter jacket (fur) is worn. A city on the coast, that does not have any shark attacks, and is near the mountains. Hiking trails will most likely be close by. Bears and moose live in this state. And, the location has a low crime rate. The people who live in this city are nice and friendly. It is not on a farm in the country…rather in a city.
Google
Web scraping, the actions of a website crawler which assembles content from web pages.
Wish
Upon a star.
Tide
Refers to the rotation and gravitational forces of the moon, earth, and sun.
Star, moon, earth, sun. All in the sky.
Scraper (Google)
Translation: A skyscraper.
Pennsylvania may still be in because the original Mason-Dixon markers are in Pennsylvania!!!!
http://www.exploretheline.com/markers.html
One of the markers is in Mason and Dixon, PA.
I wondered about this too, although PA wasn't 1 of the 5 up for vote.
No, it wasn't, but I'm not sure how we're suppose to interpret the polls.
The ONLY answer above that would give us only 1 possible answer would be west of California.
The one I WANT it to be is west of NJ.
If this is a true clue – Iowa is excluded as its west of the Mississippi and noth of the Mason Dixon Line (actually it is the line). PA is also North of the Mason Dixon Line.
Nebraska, Iowa is west of NJ, isn't it?
Yes but the really doesn't narrow down the field does it? All 4 of the other poll states are west of NJ.
Ok, just like the judge Randy would say on American Idol, "Check it out, check it out". If we use all of Mary's poll questions it only makes sense Hawaii is the only possibility. Unless of course you only pick one then it can be anywhere and your on her 'Wild Goose Chase'. Lucy prefers to look at the Big Picture!!
West of New Jersey = That's everything in the US except for New England, following me so far?? lol o.0
West of California = Mary just knocked out the entire country except New England, Alaska and Hawaii at this point even Southern states!
East of the Mississippi = New England is still east of New Jersey and East of the Mississippi. Now crossing the globe you still end up with Alaska & Hawaii left. :p
South of the Mason – Dixon = This just wiped out Alaska and New England leaving only HAWAII
***********Wait a Minute, News Flash******************************************************************
Lucy just sniffed my computer screen while I was looking at a map of the USA and it's territories, possessions, and commonwealths. Oh my God
Can it be????? All these islands are right there with Hawaii as a contender! 
Of course this would require more research but it's true!! But, then again USA and it's territories, possessions, and commonwealths are not listed in Marys five state poll on the main page…..so can it be???? US territories, possessions, and commonwealths are listed in the rules as places that can participate. Lucy and I just had a revelation!! Whoa, I need another Blue Hawaiian because I'm loosing my marbles. B)
You are brilliant! Cami is doing the hula.
Thank you Boomer. If it's Hawaii, I'll dress in a grass skirt and dance with a Hula Hoop all while sipping a Blue Hawaiian. All in the privacy of my back yard of course. ^_^
AND….You'll post this on you tube, right?….LOLxD
Could be Georgia. I am looking for a city named California (anywhere).
Nebraska, there is a city named California in Maryland and also one in Ohio, if that helps.
Hmmmm, Maryland is south of the Mason Dixon line… The plot thickens. If it gets any thicker, it will be certified cement.
Maryland is North of the M-D line, but Virginia is South!
Seriously, you “hit the nail on the head”! You are brilliant! Now the question is WHERE in VA?? I don't even care! ANYWHERE is fine with me!!
Fairfax County or Loudon County; I can't make up my mind. I mentioned both of them in Clue One. Every time I'm sure it's Fairfax a little voice in my head whispers "what about Loudon?"
It's very hard to type while holding a sleeping kitten!
Loudon has some WONDERFUL places, but so do some of the areas (prime farmland-yes, yes!) in central and western Virginia:D I seriously think if it is in VA, Mary will hear my excitement from Oregon to Tennessee!!!
I am really thinking it is Virginia too….Clue one had a tie to George Washington with peanut butter…Clue to had a tie to DC with the extra tiles….I'm thinking maybe on the Potomac River:)
Now I have to go back over them, again LOL!! The Potomac would be off the charts fantastic, but then again, ANYWHERE in VA would be off the charts FANTASTIC!!!
Thinking it might be close to Mount Vernon (above reasons) on Potomac (tide and other beach clues)
What is SUPER cool if this IS the location, is that my sister lives close by….In Loudoun CountyxD
Also super cool is one of my best friends from (believe it or not) fourth grade lives nearby too
Agreed!!!!!! Can you imagine a home on the Potomac done by HGTV? Out of this world incredible!!!!!
Somewhere on the Potomac would be beautiful! I'd love that!!!!
No, according to this original map it is south: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mason-dixon-lin…
I'm very confused by this Maryland thing – north or south of the Mason-Dixon Line? I need to re-find the map I saw yesterday.
That's interesting, I'd love to see that one, too. Having grown up in NJ, we learned of the M-D very early, and every map I find to date has the MD northern boundary as the line. I was operating off the original mapping. It was first placedby the King of Englandas a solution to a border dispute between two colonial families, the Penn's of Pennsylvania and the Calvert Family of MD prior to the Revolutionary war. It later served as a imaginary line “in the sand” for the free states Vs slavery states at the onset of the Civil War.
I've been doing my research on Maryland and the Mason-Dixon Line in general. I still don't have a definitive answer but there is a difference between the literal M-D line and what is considered the cultural South (i.e., south of the M-D line).
Part of the confusion with regard to Maryland is that it never seceded from the Union and was, therefore, considered a Union (i.e., northern) state despite being physically located south of the Mason-Dixon line.
Of course none of this helps when it comes to Mary because we have no idea to which one she refers.
I have some interesting web sites to post, including the map I originally looked at, but I can't remember how to post a link. If you will let me know what I put before and after the web address, I will post them.
The M-D line was so identified as a line in the sand for the Civil War that its original of a land dispute settlement have gone largely misunderstood even though it was established while the area and what is now the US was still under British rule.That is what makes the blog and DH so much fun. Long held perceptions of geographic locations, traditions, and occupants is often markedly different than the reality of many areas across the country.
I'm really having fun researching the clues and reading all the info the other bloggers are coming up!
With regard to the M-D line, it seems there are almost as many answers as there are questions. With the exception of the original line as surveyed by Mason and Dixon.
Something else I also discovered is that while Florida was the 3rd state to secede, it's currently not considered part of the cultural South. The same holds true with Texas. It was one of the original 7 states that made up the Confederate States of America, along with SC, MS, AL, GA, and LA.
Virginia (which included what is now West Virginia), Arkansas, North Carolina, and Tennessee didn't secede until after the Battle of Fort Sumpter; and Missouri and Kentucky both seceded but never joined the CSA. I'm sure I learned all this stuff back in high school (at least I hope I did) but that was a looooooong time ago and I had forgotten it.
Isn't it interesting how much fun it is to learn or re-learn, as the case may be, all this information now as adults when we would have been rolling our eyes if we had been assigned this stuff while still in school. At least I would have. I was more interested in studying boys!! LOL!!!
I hope your right Dreamenthusiast !!!!
Boomer hit the "nail on the head" with this clue. She said the only State West of California is Hawaii, therefore the only option of the four that narrows it down and is straightforward is West of California.. Not a direct quote, but basically what she meant. Good job Boomer.
Does anyone think Mary will be revealing the location tomorrow?
Now that we have it figured out, I think that is her only option. Unless she wants us to figure out the specific island, town, subdivision and lot too. If anything, Mary will probably throw us a curve ball with the next clue.
Ahem I said that too! Unless the California mentioned is a city in another state!
If "straightforward" is a clue in and of itself, then I'm totally on board. See, surf reference there? May be a DH novice, but catching the fever..
You are doing beautifully! No one is truly and novice here.
I like them east of the Mississippi, and north of the Mason-Dixon Line. New England! New England states have the lowest crime rate in the nation compared to other parts of the country. It's true. How about Portland, ME? Or…..Boston, MA?
I agree very enthusiastically!!!:D
Are we passing or failing?
LOL!